The Folding Towels Podcast with Jackie and David
A podcast for massage therapists

Massage school teaches you how to treat. It rarely prepares you for the difficult conversations, business decisions, boundaries, administration and endless laundry that come with practice.
That is where Folding Towels comes in. We are Jackie and David, two practising massage therapists having the useful, honest conversations we wish we had heard earlier.
The class you wish you could take, with the questions you always wanted to ask.

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Marty Fry: Bringing Movement and Breathing into Practice
Remedial massage therapist and movement trainer Marty Fry discusses how movement and breathing became part of his clinical practice, what therapists can learn through observation, and how to introduce broader strategies without pathologising normal variation, exceeding scope or overcomplicating care.
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There is no required listening order. Begin with the part of practice that has been occupying your head lately.
Build a sustainable practice
Business numbers, pricing, systems, niching and the decisions that keep a practice workable.
Find practice episodesThink more clearly about care
Clinical reasoning, evidence, scope and the questions behind what happens at the treatment table.
Find clinical conversationsHandle difficult conversations
Boundaries, expectations, communication and the parts of client care that massage school rarely prepares us for.
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Workload, confidence, professional identity, isolation and building a career you still want in ten years.
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Audience figures are based on Spotify for Creators data for the 30 days to 5 September 2026.
Recognised by FeedspotRanked #8 in Feedspot’s 46 Best Massage Podcasts to Listen to in 2026.
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Jackie Kerin and David Clayton
We met over a massage table in 2015 and discovered that the most useful conversations often happen around the edges of the work. As practising therapists, we know the job involves far more than technique.
We do not pretend to have every answer. We ask better questions, compare notes, speak with thoughtful people and make room for the awkward, practical and occasionally funny realities of working in massage.
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